User talk:Oter2k

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Welcome![edit source]

Hi, there!

Welcome to the Wiki and thanks for your new articles – further expansion is always good!

I've made some changes to those quests, tried to give them some more standard wiki layout and added necessary tags. It would be very welcome if you could add even more information to them, especially if you're currently walking through those quests. If you're needing help or have questions, feel free to ask me or another community member. :) -- UserCCCSig.png -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 13:38, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

So I'm replying back on your talk page …
About your question if that was the correct way to respond: some wikis use a ping-pong-system (you add on my talk, I add on your talk – just as this current discussion), some place all replies on one page. I prefer the latter, as also can be read in my welcome text on top of my talk page, but it's up to you to decide where you do want to write your comments. ;) (Btw., that's not really a "PM", it's all publicly readable.)
I mainly wanted to go sure that you aren't offended by edits on your contributions. New users might think that getting this "stub" message or "image needed" added to their pages would be some sort of criticism or depreciation – which it's not. And you certainly get an impression of the wiki's standards – if present – when browsing through other articles. As said, feel free to ask for support, don't hesitate to copy from other pages – and I'm looking forward on more articles/edits from you to come. :) -- UserCCCSig.png -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 10:34, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
Aha. First time I've used this kind of system, but I'll get the hang of it I think. So a reply like this, is OK?
No worries, I'm not really of the easily-offended kind, and I'd expect nothing less than having a 'not quite' posting be made 'quite', not to mention my being made aware of it. It's an opportunity to learn and improve :)
However, while at it, I'd like to ask as to the logic behind the ID system of journal entries. I've been looking at other articles, and, while it might be just me, I can't really decipher the way in which each entry ought to be identified. E.g. a "10005" ID under "3", where the other entries are "3000x". I get that the entries in your journal differ depending on what you as the PC chose to do, but how and/or where to find ID and such? ---- Oter2k (talk) 19:43, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi there, welcome aboard :) I can help out with this query, though it looks a bit cumbersome to do this on every article, and the layout probably isn't the best. The IDs are taken from the game files, which as you observed, doens't always have the most logical structure of IDs. You can find the files with the information in /Pillars of Eternity/game/PillarsOfEternity_Data/data/localized/en/text/quests/. The single-digit entries are "main" goals, if we can call it that, while the 10001 and such entries are sub-goals. Unfortunately they don't always follow the best structure in the files, so often one need to be familiar with the quest and sort the entries manually. —Pangaearocks (talk) 20:08, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
Hello, and thanks:) Indeed, if the IDs in the files don't always follow a given structure, it sounds a bit cumbersome. The other articles I looked at, it was quite apparant that the single digits are, as you say, the "main objective", but most of the sense stopped there. But I'll have a look at the files, and see if I' might be able to make some sense of some them. ---- Oter2k (talk) 20:33, 30 November 2017 (UTC)


War Pup[edit source]

Hi there again!

I've done some changes to your War Pup, which I want to explain to you:

  • Updated (though not perfect) infobox: I've removed some deprecated or unnecessary fields from the {{infobox item}}. If you copy+paste that from existent item articles, you might have some fields/parameters in it, that aren't used anymore; though the template page itself isn't complete, either, it at least doesn't have those deprectaed fields anymore. This template, however, will get an overhaul soon, so this is not that important …
  • Removed the description image – simply unnecessary; you don't need to prove you're correct, it's all in PillarsOfEternity_Data\data_expansion1\localized\en\text\game\items.stringtable (where I also found the typo)
  • Moved location image to Gallery
  • Detailed in which game it appears
  • Re-ordered sections
  • Placed an SMW template in Locations: you don't have to do that, it's something that also soon gets deprecated, but it's nice to have until then; don't care about it if you don't want to ;)

-- UserCCCSig.png -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 14:37, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

P.S. Because of some server related issues it might happen that recently uploaded images don't show – on the file page, on an article, whereever. Sometimes refreshing helps, sometimes you simply won't see them. That doesn't mean they don't exist; if you have uploaded a file and the file page is opened, it usually was successful. -- UserCCCSig.png -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 14:39, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello! Nice, looks more ordered now.
  • I copied another article, and didn't think that it might differ much, but I'll just use the template for now then.
  • No problem, and good catch on the typo.
  • It says 'available in WM1' in the article now, but it would have to be WM2, no? Since Iron Flail Fort isn't available until WM2.
  • What's an SMW template? :)
Yes, I noticed the images not always loading. Had to reload a couple of times before they appeared, when finishing the edit. ---- Oter2k (talk) 20:34, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
You can change the "available" to wm2. I thought it would, because you currently are doing the wm2 stuff, but the IDs for the item name and description are part of the data_expansion1 stringtable, so I took that for reference … Never mind, I've changed it myself and added a note.
SMW = Semantic MediaWiki (look near the bottom of the SpecialPages) – a tool to structure and group informations. The wiki's in the process of replacing SMW by Cargo, another such tool, which you also find on that page. Please, don't insist on me having to explain this further … ;) -- UserCCCSig.png -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 16:41, 1 December 2017 (UTC)