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| + | All inflicted damage is classified according to several '''Damage types'''. In terms of game mechanics, the type of damage is used to determine which [[Armor]] strength and weaknesses, apply in any given situation. There are 8 damage types: 3 physical types (Crush, Slash, Pierce), 4 elemental types (Shock, Burn, Freeze, Corrode) and the raw type.<ref>[http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3593502&userid=17931&perpage=40&pagenumber=4#post425595273 Forum post by Josh Sawyer]</ref> |
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| − | All damage has a specific [[Damage Type]] associated with it. |
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+ | ==Mechanics== |
| + | {{Outdated|There still seems to be [http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/77154-does-secondary-elemental-damage-ignore-elemental-damage-reduction/ confusion about the details] of percentage based damage. Further research needed.}} |
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| − | The attack's damage type will reduce or increase the [[Damage Threshold]] (DT) of the target, if the target is weak or strong against this damage type. The change of the DT is a percentual, for example [[mail armor]] is 40% worse against crushing attacks. Additional elemental damage from a [[weapon]] is always resisted by 25% of the target's DT, modified by the target's damage type weakness/strength.<ref>[http://spring.me/JESawyer/q/461655770568608569 Josh Sawyer on formspring]</ref> |
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| + | An attack's damage is reduced by the [[Damage Reduction]] (DR) of that particular damage type. The end damage of an attack is simply its damage subtracted by the target's damage reduction for the same type. So slashing damage will be reduced by slashing damage reduction, fire damage will be reduced by fire damage reduction, and so on. If an attack has multiple damage types (A sword is slashing/piercing, for example), it will target the enemy's lowest damage reduction value. Damage Reduction can never cause an attack to do less than 20% of its original damage. |
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| + | Damage Reduction is not adjusted in the event of a graze or a critical hit. For example, although a graze does 50% damage, you apply the full damage reduction against the attack instead of only applying 50% of it. |
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| − | ==Example Calculation== |
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| − | if you hit someone with a sabre that does +20% Shock damage, you would calculate the base (Slash) damage -- let's say it's 20 -- then the Shock damage, 4. The target is wearing armor that has 8 DT, no special modifier for Slash damage. It takes 12 damage from the sabre itself. The armor has -30% Shock DT, so that goes down to 5.6 DT, which is then reduced to 25% its normal value ,to 1.4 DT. The target takes an additional 2.6 damage from Shock, for a total of 14.6. <ref>[http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3506352&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=412#post415249491 forum post by Josh Sawyer]</ref> |
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| + | Some weapons or abilities can reduce the Damage Reduction of a target. This can never be reduced below 0. |
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| + | ;Examples of Mechanics |
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| + | A paladin scores a crit with a sword against a bandit with 12 slash damage reduction and 9 pierce damage reduction. The attack does 26 damage, but since swords are slashing/piercing, it subtracts the enemy's pierce damage reduction of 9. The resulting damage is 26 - 9, so 17 total. |
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| + | A fighter grazes an ooze using a mace (crush damage). The ooze has 16 crush defense. The attack does 14 damage, which would normally be 0 damage (14 - 16), but because of the minimum damage rule, it does 3.5 damage. |
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| + | A barbarian hits a xaurip with an estoc (pierce damage). The Xaurip has 4 pierce damage reduction, but the Estoc has the ability to ignore 5 points of damage reduction. The attack does 17 damage, and none of it is reduced by damage reduction because of the estoc's ability, resulting in the xaurip taking all 17 points of damage. |
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==Damage Types== |
==Damage Types== |
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| − | + | In [[Pillars of Eternity]] there are 8 damage types<ref>[http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/64297-character-rollaholic-mea-culpa/?view=findpost&p=1368420 forum post by Josh Sawyer]</ref>: 3 physical types, 4 elemental types and the raw type.<ref>[http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/65126-thoughts-on-damage-types/?view=findpost&p=1418234 Forum post by Josh Sawyer]</ref> |
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| − | * [[Crushing]] – physical weapon attacks by weapons like [[war hammer]]s and [[flail]]s |
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| − | * [[Slashing]] – physical weapon attacks by weapons like [[sword]]s and [[Sabre]]s |
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+ | * {{Slash}} '''Slashing''' - caused by weapons with an edged blade, such as [[battle axe]]s and [[sabre]]s. |
| + | * {{Pierce}} '''Piercing''' - caused by weapons with a sharp point, such as [[stiletto]]s and [[rapier]]s. |
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| + | * {{Crush}} '''Crushing''' - caused by weapons with a blunt striking surface, such as [[club]]s and [[flail]]s. |
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| + | * {{Freeze}} '''Freeze''' - attacks from spells or additional damage to physical weapon attacks. |
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| + | * {{Corrode}} '''Corrode''' - attacks from spells or additional damage to physical weapon attacks. |
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| + | ;Raw: |
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| + | * {{Raw}} '''Raw''' - Caused by venom, mental powers and rare skills. Ignores any damage reduction.<ref>[http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3506352&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=517#post422416725 Forum post by Josh Sawyer]</ref> |
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==Historical notes== |
==Historical notes== |
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+ | There were two abandoned designs. |
In the first design, damage types were optimized against the damage thresholds of armor. Slashing weapons did the most damage of the three types, but, unlike the other two types, did not interact with armor. This made it ideal against foes with little to no armor. Piercing weapons negated some of an armor's Damage Threshold, making them efficient against foes with a moderate amount of armor. Crushing weapons did the most damage through armor, which made these weapons ideal against foes with heavy armor. |
In the first design, damage types were optimized against the damage thresholds of armor. Slashing weapons did the most damage of the three types, but, unlike the other two types, did not interact with armor. This made it ideal against foes with little to no armor. Piercing weapons negated some of an armor's Damage Threshold, making them efficient against foes with a moderate amount of armor. Crushing weapons did the most damage through armor, which made these weapons ideal against foes with heavy armor. |
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| − | In the second design, physical damage types were compared against [[armor]] |
+ | In the second design, physical damage types were compared against [[armor]] weight classifications and can either be "good" or "bad." Bad damage types did half damage before Damage Threshold was applied. Good damage types used an efficiency curve to assess damage done. |
| − | Energy damage (such as from spells) opposed a different characteristic of armor: its |
+ | Energy damage (such as from spells) opposed a different characteristic of armor: its substance type. Similar to physical damage, energy damage types had good or bad opposition characteristics against armor substance.<ref>[http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/obsidian/project-eternity/posts/390987 Update #39: Non-Core Classes, Cooldowns, Attack Resolution, Damage vs. Armor and a Tileset!]</ref> |
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Latest revision as of 20:17, 1 December 2018
All inflicted damage is classified according to several Damage types. In terms of game mechanics, the type of damage is used to determine which Armor strength and weaknesses, apply in any given situation. There are 8 damage types: 3 physical types (Crush, Slash, Pierce), 4 elemental types (Shock, Burn, Freeze, Corrode) and the raw type.[1]
Mechanics[ | ]
Reason: "There still seems to be confusion about the details of percentage based damage. Further research needed."
An attack's damage is reduced by the Damage Reduction (DR) of that particular damage type. The end damage of an attack is simply its damage subtracted by the target's damage reduction for the same type. So slashing damage will be reduced by slashing damage reduction, fire damage will be reduced by fire damage reduction, and so on. If an attack has multiple damage types (A sword is slashing/piercing, for example), it will target the enemy's lowest damage reduction value. Damage Reduction can never cause an attack to do less than 20% of its original damage.
Damage Reduction is not adjusted in the event of a graze or a critical hit. For example, although a graze does 50% damage, you apply the full damage reduction against the attack instead of only applying 50% of it.
Some weapons or abilities can reduce the Damage Reduction of a target. This can never be reduced below 0.
- Examples of Mechanics
A paladin scores a crit with a sword against a bandit with 12 slash damage reduction and 9 pierce damage reduction. The attack does 26 damage, but since swords are slashing/piercing, it subtracts the enemy's pierce damage reduction of 9. The resulting damage is 26 - 9, so 17 total.
A fighter grazes an ooze using a mace (crush damage). The ooze has 16 crush defense. The attack does 14 damage, which would normally be 0 damage (14 - 16), but because of the minimum damage rule, it does 3.5 damage.
A barbarian hits a xaurip with an estoc (pierce damage). The Xaurip has 4 pierce damage reduction, but the Estoc has the ability to ignore 5 points of damage reduction. The attack does 17 damage, and none of it is reduced by damage reduction because of the estoc's ability, resulting in the xaurip taking all 17 points of damage.
Damage Types[ | ]
In Pillars of Eternity there are 8 damage types[2]: 3 physical types, 4 elemental types and the raw type.[3]
- Physical
Slashing - caused by weapons with an edged blade, such as battle axes and sabres.
Piercing - caused by weapons with a sharp point, such as stilettos and rapiers.
Crushing - caused by weapons with a blunt striking surface, such as clubs and flails.
- Elemental
- Shock - attacks from spells or additional damage to physical weapon attacks.
- Burn - attacks from spells or additional damage to physical weapon attacks.
- Freeze - attacks from spells or additional damage to physical weapon attacks.
- Corrode - attacks from spells or additional damage to physical weapon attacks.
- Raw
- Raw - Caused by venom, mental powers and rare skills. Ignores any damage reduction.[4]
Historical notes[ | ]
There were two abandoned designs. In the first design, damage types were optimized against the damage thresholds of armor. Slashing weapons did the most damage of the three types, but, unlike the other two types, did not interact with armor. This made it ideal against foes with little to no armor. Piercing weapons negated some of an armor's Damage Threshold, making them efficient against foes with a moderate amount of armor. Crushing weapons did the most damage through armor, which made these weapons ideal against foes with heavy armor.
In the second design, physical damage types were compared against armor weight classifications and can either be "good" or "bad." Bad damage types did half damage before Damage Threshold was applied. Good damage types used an efficiency curve to assess damage done. Energy damage (such as from spells) opposed a different characteristic of armor: its substance type. Similar to physical damage, energy damage types had good or bad opposition characteristics against armor substance.[5]